GOP wins VA, NJ....and very little discussion

[valvano]

[Bob]

it's been news for less than a day and you've already made a thread about it so i'd say there's quite a bit of discussion about it, to the extent that "" counts as discussion

[yeahwho]

I have a raging hard on and can barely type

[ms.peachy]

This is the first NJ governor's race I've sat out since I became eligible to vote. I kind of hated to do it, because I am a big advocate of voting generally and I believe it's every citizens duty to take an active interest in governance. However, I just really could not see that this year, it would have been worth it for me to go to the effort of sorting out having my absentee ballot sent to China, voting, posting it back by the early deadline, etc. when I just could not see any real value to either candidate. I'm not pleased it went to Christie, but I'm not horrified either. I'd have felt pretty much the same about Corzine. I actually think that they are both basically good men; Corzine's views and policies are more in line with my own, but the fact is he is crippled by his association with individuals taken down in the earlier corruptions scandals. So we will see what Christie will do. Good luck to him.

[YoungRemy]

Oh, valvano you are such a massive failure.

Bill Owens 49 %

Richard Hoffman 46 %

Dede Scozzafava 5 %

[kaiser soze]

They can have their governorships, Dems will take/hold two congressional seats! (Owens in NY 23 and Garamendi in CA 10)

Happy to see my once red district go blue and I helped

[RobMoney$]

That's not what your leader was saying...
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29000.html
Not even Chairman Obama could help Corzine.

NO YOU CAN'T, NO YOU CAN'T!


This is a wake-up call for Obama.
It's time to quit making pretty speeches and do something, or your time will be up next.

[kaiser soze]

huh?

I was talking about NY district 23 congressional race (the once big news item until Owens won)

[DroppinScience]

Wake-up call? The case of New Jersey and Virginia are their own isolated incidents where the Democrats (particularly NJ) were troubled for their own internal, regional-specific problems. Off-year elections forecast very little about mid-term or presidential elections.

And if there IS anything reliable from Tuesday that can be forecasted in future elections, it was NY-23 (which helped turn a red district into blue) and now shows vote-splitting among the tea party people. The GOP have the right to bask in their gubernatorial victories, but they got a big uphill battle when it comes to U.S. Congress.

[valvano]

Originally Posted by kaiser soze

huh?

I was talking about NY district 23 congressional race (the once big news item until Owens won)

correct me if i am wrong, but didnt even the Daily Koz endorse the GOP pick? and recall, this was an election with no primary...and will be right back up for election again next year?

yet wonderboy Tim Kaine, DNC Chair and Obama boot licker, couldn't deliver the Old Dominion..and Corzine, despite the fat jokes and the $$$$$, couldnt win Joisey...

[travesty]

Depending on who's spin you listen to, yesterday was a huge win for Dems AND a huge win for the GOP.
So shouldn't we all be happy that an election day was finally a win-win for everyone? Or should we just quit listening to the spin?

[YoungRemy]

Originally Posted by travesty

Depending on who's spin you listen to, yesterday was a huge win for Dems AND a huge win for the GOP.
So shouldn't we all be happy that an election day was finally a win-win for everyone? Or should we just quit listening to the spin?

I could agree to see it that way, instead we all get baited from both sides into valvano's "nanny nanny boo boo" threads

I'll even concede: where the hell has Obama been for the past month?

I will not concede the usual valvano argument of GOP wins NJ and VA, therefore OBAMA FAIL

since the 1988 presidential elections, this pattern of gubernatorial elections has continued- the minority party wins the year after the white house is taken over by the opposing party.

meanwhile in Upstate NY, a Democratic Congressman takes over the district FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE THE 19TH CENTURY. thats right the, 1800s!!!!

and why? you can thank Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, and the Tea-Baggers for ousting their own candidate with robo-calls, classic muckraking, and good old fashioned GOP idiocy. they started a fight within their own party, lol.

this is not debatable. they got involved in the Scozzafava affair and had ZERO BUSINESS doing so.

[saz]

Originally Posted by YoungRemy

I could agree to see it that way, instead we all get baited from both sides into valvano's "nanny nanny boo boo" threads

ahahah

[kaiser soze]

Time for some mud slingin'

Who is Michelle Brown ( I wonder if Beck will ask this question in one of his 6 degrees of separation bits...I doubt it )

http://www.mainjustice.com/2009/10/2...site-campaign/

The New York Times reports that the prosecutor to whom Chris Christie lent $46,000 appears to have “used her position in two significant and possibly improper ways to try to aid Mr. Christie in his run for governor.”

Christie blamed by Monty Python guys of copyright infringement

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4WaimCUF_4

How many congressional seats did the republicans win and how many governors can vote in congress?

just curious

[ms.peachy]

My feeling is, and honestly I have nothing to base this on other than my own thoughts and what friends/family of mine back in NJ have said to me, is that the election of Christie is not so much a rejection of Obama or an embrace of Christie, but more of a rejection of Corzine. I would be interested to see the breakdown of the proportion of registered dems who didn't vote vs. the proportion of registered reps that did. I'm willing to wager there was a significant number who, like me, sat out the vote because whilst they didn't particularly want Christie, they weren't motivated to make the effort for Corzine either.

[Schmeltz]

Why, look at all this context and reasonableness and correct spelling. If it weren't for the original post it would be as though valvano had never been here at all!

[kaiser soze]

[DroppinScience]

The Night They Drove the Tea Partiers Down


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/op...rich.html?_r=1

[ms.peachy]

Originally Posted by DroppinScience

The Night They Drove the Tea Partiers Down


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/op...rich.html?_r=1

Quite a good piece. Well-balanced analysis.